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July 29, 2007

Gay honeymoons vs. honeymoon apartheid

This British writer is insulted that so few honeymoon brochures and websites are targeting gay couples:

Try entering "gay honeymoon" in, say, the Virgin search engine. And don't expect much back.

Isn't this a teensy-bit insulting? Why don't these big operators seem to want our pink pounds?

Then she turns idealist and says straight and gay couples should go on the same honeymonns:
But isn't it a shame that we have this honeymoon apartheid - if only to stay safe - this segregation between straight and gay? Wouldn't the world be a better place if love were love, no matter whether it's a bride and groom, two brides or two grooms. Couldn't we all just go on holiday together and have a great time? Shouldn't gays be included in the mainstream travel brochures?
I just don't understand the last sentence - it seems to me that if this author really wants the same honeymoons for all couples (straight and gay) then the mainstream brochures already include vacation options for gay and lesbian honeymooners.

On the one hand we want brochures to include gay honeymoons, but on the other hand, we want the same honeymoons for straights and gays.

On the one hand we want results when we search for "gay honeymoon" - on the other hand, we don't want honeymoon apartheid.

It seems to me that anyone looking for lesbian honeymoon stuff in travel brochures or searching for gay honeymoons online actually wants honeymoon apartheid. If you want to take a honeymoon regardless of it's straightness or gayness, just do a search for honeymoon or pick up any honeymoon brochure.

But if you're searching for "gay honeymoon" I have to think that you want something different from a "straight honeymoon".

Now that's fine. I don't blame people for wanting something different. But I do criticize this author, Sarah Graham, for confusing me with poor logic.

Posted by James Trotta at July 29, 2007 8:04 PM | TrackBack  

Comments

I THINK THEY WANT YOUR PINK POUND OR ANYBODYS FOR THAT MATTER BUT THE FACT REMAINS I PERSONALLY JUST DONT WANT TO SEE IT!

Posted by: bj at July 29, 2007 10:06 PM

When you ask for seperate but equal, you never achieve equality. a hyphenated world will never change.we must become just humans not this, that or the other-person

Posted by: punxxi at July 31, 2007 3:34 AM

The fact is that homosexuality is welcome in different ways in different countries. In some countries (and in some venues) you're welcome to be open as having a same sex partner. In other countries you have to be much more conservative, or completely conceal the fact.

I think the author in the article you cite is trying to say, that gays currently aren't included in travel brochures. The honeymoons are planned only for hetrosexual couples, and none of the planning and issues that concern homosexual honeymooners are covered at all.

When you travel, you need to be mindful that when you visit different cultures to your own, you need to step in (and if you're responsible, follow to an extent) what can be a completely different set of values. Visiting another culutre is different for a single person or a married person; a man or a woman; an older person or a younger person; and of course, gay or straight.

I see it as about being humans, but being realistic that we are individuals with different cultures and ideas. You do need to research before you travel and a gay honeymooners guide, since gay people are getting married as well as straight ones, seems logical.

Posted by: Angela at July 31, 2007 12:59 PM

What exactly are you confused about?
Honeymoon schemes and romantic getaway packages are geared almost exclusively toward heterosexual couples.
Have you seen any mainstream brochures offering honeymoon stays that featured a man and a woman kissing on a beach on one page and two men walking hand in hand enjoying a sunset on another? Are we really integrated, and have the gays and lesbians got it all wrong?
Gay and lesbian couples get attacked and abused at times simply for existing (Not so heterosexual couples).
It would be nice if they had options for honeymoons and romantic getaways which from the time of planning and booking made it clear that they would be welcomed and not treated like second-class citizens that didn't really belong. Thus the need for gay friendly travel sites.
If mainstream honeymoon packages and websites serve gay and lesbian couples equally and without prejudice, as you seem to assert, then perhaps they had better get more serious about publicizing it.

Posted by: Kay at July 31, 2007 4:25 PM

Most Americans don't think people should wear their religion, their race or their sexual preference posted on their foreheads, just to make a statement...In general most Major travel companies don't highlight and promote Jews or Catholics or gays or white or black unless the company is promoting to that group alone for a specific reason....why should the gay community be any different. If you can't tell a gay person by just looking at them, then they're just people like the rest of us. So why apply a lable unless the real reason is self promotion on a soapbox.

Posted by: Jim McCauley at July 31, 2007 6:19 PM

Try entering "black honeymoon" or "asian honeymoon" or "jewish honeymoon" or "dwarf honeymoon" or "handicapped honeymoon" in, say, the Virgin search engine. And don't expect much back.

Isn't this a teensy-bit insulting? Why don't these big operators seem to want our black/asian/jewish/dwarf/handicapped pounds?

Posted by: Joe Doe at July 31, 2007 7:00 PM

Kay, I get that right now honeymoon brochures are designed to attract heterosexual honeymooners. I have no problem with the author complaining about this and pointing out that tour operators are missing out on a possibly important piece of the market.

But then she says there should be no segregation. That's the weird part for me. Does she want lesbian travel brochures or does she want everyone to use the same ones?

Posted by: James Trotta at August 1, 2007 12:03 AM

Do you really feel this is a worthy topic my thoughts oops wrong room back up and reboot! See ya wouldn't want to be ya.

Posted by: Roger at August 1, 2007 12:32 AM

they have there life to live so they do what ever they wish 4 them selfs
life ie about what u do with it and it hild out good things in your life
if they find it good seed let them go ahead

Posted by: k.c at August 1, 2007 7:52 PM

I can think of nothing worse than ending up on a cruise of nothing but gay couples. It's like scaring your children to death at Gay Days at Disney World. Equal treatment does not mean "special treatment" and I'm personally getting sick of the demands of EVERY SINGLE special interest group.

Get over yourselves.

Posted by: travelfan at August 1, 2007 11:46 PM

Gays suck!Always trying to make a statement and demanding special treatment,freaks!

Posted by: Tim at August 2, 2007 2:57 AM

Maybe the reason you're not finding enough brochures or hits on the internet regarding homo-getaways, is because the majority of the worlds population know homosexuality is just not right. They might not want to speak up because they fear losing business or being ridiculed for there beliefs. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know men were not created to be with men or women with women. That's not something that had to be taught. That's something instilled in mentally competant human beings at birth. Just because some guy decided, "Hey, sticking something where it doesn't belong feels good!!" doesn't make it right. I'm not saying that the mentally ill don't deserve rights either. I am saying, instead of saying "Aww it's ok, you must have been born that way", let's say "Dude, that's just not right, we need to get you some help." If we keep condoneing this behavior in society, before you know it, the people who believe that relations with children or animals are ok to. Because they must have been born that way.

Posted by: PRINCESS at August 2, 2007 3:36 PM

Come on pinky... Gay marriage is legal in what, like 0.2% of countries??? It's just not a big enough market to add 'targeted advertising'... separate or not!!!
But Princess, I'd be more careful with the language you use when trying to deride other people... Mentioning mental competency, and spelling it "competant" clearly demonstrates your diminished capacity to contribute anything of value to an intellectual conversation.
Homosexuality has NOTHING TO DO with pedophilia, bestiality, or other activities considered to be crimes in most countries. Homosexuality is not a crime in most (if not all) civilized countries... but ignorance ought to be!!!

Posted by: mbar at August 2, 2007 9:40 PM
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